‘If you go, you're fired’: Boss denied employee's time off request after discovering their summer vacations are at the same time, employee refuses to reschedule

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  • Noified my work weeks ago I'm leaving for a family vacation in July, tickets were bought, non-transferrable, and they are panicking, begging me to cancel

    This whole situation is absurd and I need a sanity check. I work in admin in a niche but important, multi-national industry.
  • I am a knowledgeable, reliable cog, and I pick up alot of slack as we are incredibly short- staffed with plans to add more because "its working out fine for right now" blah blah.
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  • My boss is going on vacation, and she and I were comparing dates and realized they line up.
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  • She immediately told me I had to cancel. I told her I can't, things are non-refundable, since I am a cog, I never considered my manager's schedule.
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  • That is not my job. She told me she could deny my PTO, and if I go, I would be released.
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  • Great. I go to her boss, and say "lets make a plan". They say "ok great" and I build a schedule for task coverage, including him taking a few hours each day to sit at my desk and doing my in person job of fielding industry questions (or taking their info and I'd follow up later), and I offer to log in (paid) for a couple hours every day to help support.
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  • He says "Cool, I'll present this to the higher ups." My bosses boss told me that the higher ups think that he's "too important and high paid" to sit at a front admin office for any amount of time.
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  • Then the board comes up with a great idea, we'll just offer to reschedule MY VACATION.
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  • They offered a few hundred bucks to cover scheduling fees. I calculated the fees, they are way more than a few hundred dollars.
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  • Talking thousands as hotels, travel, transport, everything for 41 book in advance so I can just relax.
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  • We do this because it's not just my life, but my partners summer schedule and his two kids, and their crazy schedules with sports, split custody, their bio mom's vacation plans, a whole thing.
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  • They asked me to cancel it and go some other time. I said a firm no.
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  • The kids are finally old enough to comfortably travel internationally, they are excited, and I'm not telling them we can't go because "work won't let me".
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  • HUH??? My thing is, I'm a cog. Should I have double checked everyones calander before scheduling?
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  • Sure, but I'm not a managing party. I haven't experienced something like this in my entire working life.
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  • I've previously notified upper management of my vacation time at the beginning of the year just like this and they just say "ok great thanks for letting us know".
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  • Why is my leaving for 7 working days leaving the office in SUCH A PANIC? There are options to resolve this, like having someone come from another department for a couple days here, another a couple days there, and I offered to support remotely.
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  • Also, my vacation is scheduled for JULY?? I tell you in February??? Also, shouldn't this be a reasonable indicator of how short-staffed a department is if TWO people being out for any extended period of time throws a wrench into everything?
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  • Did I do something wrong? Is there something I'm not seeing? Any insight or advice would be amazing.
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  • AdventurousLet3834 Just imagine if you were in an accident and were incapacitated, they'd have to figure it out. Never think you're so indispensable you can't be replaced. You can and will be without thought.
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  • educatedvegetable Original Poster's Reply That's a good point.
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  • WhatWouldJediDo If he's as valuable as the company says he is, then they should be willing to offer him as much money as it takes for it to be worth it to not go on the trip
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  • educatedvegetable Original Poster's Reply I am a lady. Should have included that in my post, whoops!
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  • Southern_Orange3744 July is ample time for them to figure out a temporary situation If they truly can't because you're just that unique then they can't exactly fire you
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  • Silver_Adagio138 Maybe your boss is too important and high paid to have a vacation.
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  • Apocolypse Joe Their failure to plan does not constitute an emergency on your part. This was not a request, you were telling them to prepare well ahead of time. Take the vacation.
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  • Born-Rush-7554 If leadership is saying they can't handle 5 months notice to cover 7 days of your absence, that should tell you several things: 1. Your value-you can take your skills elsewhere, because you are clearly instrumental in how this business operates. 2. They have zero intention of adding more staff to accommodate PTO and your team's current workload. 3. If they are successful in talking you into a vacation change, you can expect them to do it again with any PTO you take that is inconve
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  • AnteaterAcceptable42 Just ignore the employer. Take the vacation
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  • kellyb1985 So.... they threatened to fire you because you're too essential to take a vacation in 3 months. Real top notch operation they're running.
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